Wednesday, May 16, 2012

RIP Gabriel Chase: Addendum

I will let me learned pempslider, the Silver Smurfer, speak for itself.


Sadly this site is no longer up.

The site had been up for several years and hopefully its owner will find an alternative host domain.

Have no fear Retroz will keep broadcasting the pro-classic/anti-new series divide message FOREVER!



Or, to put it another way:



You tell him, bro.

6 comments:

Miles Reid said...

I don't think I'll ever understand these people.

Youth of Australia said...

"People"? Heh. Generous.

Don't worry, Miles. Not everyone can be Eddie Fitzgerald.

Jared "No Nickname" Hansen said...

Have no fear Retroz will keep broadcasting the pro-classic/anti-new series divide message FOREVER!

...so are they pro-classic but anti the new series being divided from the classic series? Or are they pro classic AND anti new series and want to actively try to enforce this division upon others?

It's a very confusing sentence...

Youth of Australia said...

Yes, but Jared you must remember who wrote it - Ron "immersed in a bitter sea of truth" Mallet.

The basic tenant of the Retroz argument is

- NuWho is, as GC once said, an abomination against all mankind

- anyone who considers NuWho in any way canon is a (and I quote) "sad, deluded little turd"

- NuWho cannot be canon because Jon Pertwee considered the Doctor an asexual character

- anyone who argues that the thoughts and actions of actors has any bearing on NuWho being canon is a "sad, deluded little turd"

- anyone who suggests any kind of logical fallacy with this argument is a "sad, deluded little turd"

- the perfect example of the "sad, deluded little turds" that Retroz despises with evangelical passion is the owner of the davidrestal blog.

...

If only there was some kind of pattern.

Jared "No Nickname" Hansen said...

- anyone who considers NuWho in any way canon is a (and I quote) "sad, deluded little turd"

I was about to list the major figures of the show and the fandom this would entail, but then realised it's actually every single notable fan there is. Or, if you prefer, 99% of fandom..

- NuWho cannot be canon because Jon Pertwee considered the Doctor an asexual character

Even though Pertwee is only an authority on his incarnation of the Doctor, and it also means assuming that 500+ years of the character's life are not allowed to carry with them any degree of character development.

- anyone who argues that the thoughts and actions of actors has any bearing on NuWho being canon is a "sad, deluded little turd"

Erm....

- anyone who suggests any kind of logical fallacy with this argument is a "sad, deluded little turd"

Oh! Well that covers it, then.

- the perfect example of the "sad, deluded little turds" that Retroz despises with evangelical passion is the owner of the davidrestal blog.

Yeah. I've noticed that this issue isn't not giving the classic series its dues, or liking the new series. It seems to be just ACKNOWLEDGING IT.

I mean, for all the crap I've given the New Series to be derided as an RTD lover is... well, it's one of those things where the accusation is so inaccurate as to be completely inoffensive.

Youth of Australia said...

I was about to list the major figures of the show and the fandom this would entail, but then realised it's actually every single notable fan there is. Or, if you prefer, 99% of fandom..
Yes, pretty much everyone except GC, RM and Peter Q.

(Personally, I think the "canon divide" was pretty much ended when Sarah Jane Smith became a regular. Any stragglers were nuked out of existence by Time Crash and now William Hartnel was appearing more often than Daleks in the Moff era...)

Even though Pertwee is only an authority on his incarnation of the Doctor, and it also means assuming that 500+ years of the character's life are not allowed to carry with them any degree of character development.
I understand where you're coming from, and I should stress that Pertwee saying the Doctor was asexual is, in context...

Bill Baggs: So. Was the Doctor banging Jo Grant?
Pertwee: What the fuck are you on about? Of course he wasn't!

Erm.... Oh! Well that covers it, then.
There is an internal consistency that can't be denied.

I mean, for all the crap I've given the New Series to be derided as an RTD lover is... well, it's one of those things where the accusation is so inaccurate as to be completely inoffensive.
Yes.

I mean, I could easily be classed a JNT lover, or even an Eric Saward lover by that logic! And, of course, Chris Lilly's Thai ladyboy bride...